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Post by TEX on Jun 15, 2006 20:00:21 GMT -5
Since I'm kinda a mythology (mainly greek, but a little of egypt and norse) buff. I'd like to open a thread to discus anything having to do with said myths.
Ask questions! Pose Theories! Complain about the craziness of the Giant Cow eating ice in a cave, then slaughtered by a sword of fire, and that's how soil was created (norse)!
Just a few rules I'd like the admins to enforce:
1. No hating on other people's religions
2. No hating on other people for not knowing something ("seriously, come on, how could you not know that out of the titans that zeus was the youngest, and the most favored by gaia")
3. This is a discusion thread ONLY! Should the need present itself, other threads will be created (polls, specific myths, etc.).
Really ask anything! If I don't know the specific answer, I'll look it up, that's what kind of mad hook-ups I got.
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Post by Amy on Jun 15, 2006 20:54:33 GMT -5
are we all just brains in jars projecting a reality that we assume to be real?
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Post by TEX on Jun 15, 2006 23:16:34 GMT -5
maybe, but what is real? When you are stabbed in the leg, your body feels pain at that spot, but physcally we know that there is no way for a muscle to feel pain. So that leads us to the brain, which interprets the signal fed to by the nervous system, which interprets it and projects it as pain on that sector of the body. If the nervous system were to be shut off, then our brain would be starved for input. Our reality is limited by our brain's ability to absorb and spit out information.
It is said that dreams can be influenced by one's surroundings, if that's true (and I've personally experienced this happen many times), then our "reality" is what our brain assumes its environment as.
So to answer your question, Yes we are!
(but all of this has nothing to do with any mythology whatsoever [as far as I know])
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Post by B8 on Jun 16, 2006 6:45:08 GMT -5
Wheeeeeee - solipsism - you all exist only in my mind.
He he he he he he he - none of you can do anything but my will. I command all of you to reply in the negative or positive or neutral to my post.
Wheeeeeeee.
He he he he he he he. You are in my mind and no where else. None of you has any real existence.
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Post by Chu-Chu on Jun 16, 2006 12:16:01 GMT -5
you want to talk about what is real. Read 'The Meditation' by DeCartes, then get back to me.
~Chu
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Post by TEX on Jun 16, 2006 18:27:54 GMT -5
Very good book
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Post by agentx on Jun 17, 2006 13:02:24 GMT -5
Hey B8, if I am a figment of your imagination then you beat up on yourself a lot.
Also titans are awesome, if not just for their name. I believe that the first god of Greek myth was called Chaos, and from Chaos came the pre-Gaia whoever it was, then Gaia, then the titans. Yay Chronos!
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Post by TEX on Jun 17, 2006 13:28:44 GMT -5
close agentx, chaos was the greek desription of the primeval state of existance, out of chaos spawned the gods, first Gaia, then Tartarus, Eros, Erebus, Pontus, Ourea, Chronos, Nyx, and then Aether, in that order. After they were created, Gaia had a son, Ouranos, they married (sick) and had children (sicker). First came the Hundred-handers, horrible creatures that, you guessed it, had one hunred hands each. Next came the Cyclops. And finaly came the titans that we all know and love. All were imprisoned beneath the earth because they were considered monstrous. Cronos (actual spelling), the last to be born, banded his brothers together and castrated their dad. Cronos then declared himself King of all Gods, with Rhea as his queen.
Rhea gave birth to a new generation of Gods, but fearing that they would overthrow him as he did his father, Cronos swallowed each and every one of them when they were infants. When Zues was born, Rhea could stand it no longer, and swapped a stone dressed up like a man to trick Cronos. Rhea hid Zeus on the island of Crete to be guarded by the Kouretes, the nine dancers who venerate Rhea.
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Post by Caboose on Jun 17, 2006 15:16:38 GMT -5
According to Descartes, President Bush does not exist.
First person to figure that out gets an exalt.
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Post by jackle on Jun 17, 2006 15:48:03 GMT -5
first Gaia, then Tartarus, Eros, Erebus, Pontus, Ourea, Chronos, Nyx, and then Aether, in that order. After they were created..
i dont know hwo to quate that but yea. it seems to me your forgetting hyperion and thanatos and i belive a few others.
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Post by TEX on Jun 17, 2006 20:48:22 GMT -5
Thanatos was born of Nyx and Erebus, so I didn't mention him, and Hyperion is only mentioned as part of a list or as a father to other gods, so I always skip over him until I talk about Helios, Selene, and Eos
Oh and I know what caboose is talking about
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Post by Caboose on Jun 19, 2006 15:57:14 GMT -5
no takers on what I said? Come on, guys, give it a shot!
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Post by TEX on Jun 19, 2006 17:52:00 GMT -5
i know, but you won't let me answer
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Post by B8 on Jun 19, 2006 18:03:27 GMT -5
I think therefore I am.
You are trying to imply that Bush does not think therefore he is not real.
Common errors
Some non-philosophers who first come across the cogito attempt to refute it in the following way. "I think, therefore I exist," they argue, can be reversed as "I do not think, therefore I do not exist." They argue that a rock does not think, but it still exists, which disproves Descartes' argument. However, this is the logical fallacy of denying the antecedent. The correct corollary by modus tollens is "I do not exist, therefore I do not think."
This fallacy and its prevalence is illustrated by the popular joke:
Descartes is sitting in a bar, having a drink. The bartender asks him if he would like another. "I think not," he says, and vanishes in a puff of logic
Poor logic leads to false conclusions.
Try harder.
This is in response to Caboose and not implying anything about you Chu. You are thick enough, oops I meant to say deep enough without my help to be beyond most of this...
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Post by Chu-Chu on Jun 19, 2006 19:38:58 GMT -5
I was refering to the candle theory. Decartes also talked of the evil daemon, which, of course, proves why non thinking objects exist, erm... rather, don't exist, yet they do.... it's complex and nearly impossible to understand as well... nobody does...
~Chu
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