War is the solution...

[Amy]

After all I've heard and read about the immigration reform I can say I too truely can't wait til
'08. Letting the illegals have a chance to get in that have been here for a "long time" even though they're illegal? DOUBLING the amount of the immigrants let into the country per year from 1 million to 2 million?! WTG, FTL. stress the economy and add to the welfare/medicade state so those of us here that might need it can't have access to it. Sure why not.

[agentx]

Just legally leave the country, then come right back in! FREE MEDICARE!!!!

[Amy]

agentx said:

Just legally leave the country, then come right back in! FREE MEDICARE!!!!

I wonder if I could claim I was an illegal.

"Si, senor, but I have to feed the donkey"-- Titus quote absolutely hilarious episode.

[B8]

Maybe we should declare war on Canada. Send all of the illegals there as conscripts. That way we make Canada happy by giving them population and we solve the problem of Canada being mad at us.

The above is total lunacy and has no relation to reality what so ever. It is not to be taken seriously under any circumstances. But it is no more ridiculous a solution than any other proposed so far. Such is the state of the idea bank for solving problems that even the lunatic approach sounds _____________. (Fill in the blank.)

[TEX]

I'd rather have a wimp as pres, than an idiot. Wimps at least know what they're doing

"I don't like the idea of using tax money to murder, period."
-Pres. George Bush, Veto 'Ceremony' on the stim cell research bill

"How many Iraq civilians have died so far? I'd say 30,000, give or take."
-Pres. George Bush, Press release on the update of Congress's resolution to the war on terror

[Canadian Nose]

b8 said:

No arguement that we commit acts of terror. We commit those acts in response to provovation or other such ideaology. There are darn few first strike acts that we have made. Do tell me some of them and we can begin a new thread.

Im hoping this was a slip of the finger, or a moment of weakness.

The Middle East has been in conflict for what... 1,000 years? Who knows who threw the first stone, who shot the first arrow, who stabbed the first sword, who shot the first bullet, who dropped the first bomb. But, according to your reasoning combined with their belief that the other side started it, their acts of terrorism are quite justified. This can refer to Palestine and Israel, or any number of countries.

Acts of Terrorism are not justified by Acts of Terrorism. They cant be. When an Iraqi militant insurgent bombs a US embassy because his sister was raped by a US soldier, is it justified?

If our acts are less because there in response to other acts, then The Iraqi insurgent was in the right.

the Boston Massacre. the Americans were Terrorist. We were British Citizens. Period. and we rebelled. Thats an act of terrorism in Britan's eyes. So they respond by shooting out citizens, burning out towns. Thats quite alright, because we started it. Or did we, since we had no represnation.

In all conflicts, there are different ways of thinking about who started it. You cant make ours any better than theirs. All Acts of Terrorism are on an equal level, or else it wouldnt be terrorism.


And dont mistake Bravery and Dedication with Effectiveness or Wisdom. Bush invaded a country, but maybe a more effective route could have been invading the RIGHT country. Out of the Axis of Evil, 2 of the 3 countries have Nuclear Capability, and the 1 that doesnt is the one we invaded. Since, as admitted by the White House, Iraq's Nuclear program wasnt advanced... we essentialy did the least effective invasion plan that was availible.

We want a president that will do something. If it requires al the soldiers, Ok, just give us results. Show us a stem in the violence, Stop the unnsecary bloodshed. Be able to truthfully tell the weeping mother that her son died for a cause, died protecting America. Not that he died holding a street that was liberated 3 years ago. American soldiers dying doesnt bother me as much as americans soldiers dying for no reason. Theres no progress, theres no rebuilding, theres no structure, theres no leadership. We need Competence, not Bravery. Wisdom, not recklessness.

No, I dont want a wimp for president. I would like a competent leader.

[Chu-Chu]

'War is the solution'

What is the question?

[Canadian Nose]

Its the solution to conflict

[TEX]

War never solved anything. Except world war 2... and 1, and Slavery, and allowed us our freedom from England, but that's not much, is it?

[Canadian Nose]

Lol. *continues to name wars through history*

[TEX]

let's see here:

1. Stopped spread of totalitarionism
2. Freed a nation so we could get cheaper oil
3. Put the Louisianna Territory for sale
4. United the known world
5. Split the Empire
6. Won us Jerusalim (sp?)
7. Won Jewish people Jerusalim(same)
8. Won Muslims Jerusalim (ditto)

Let's see here, anything else........ not at the moment

[Canadian Nose]

you fail to distinguish War and the Threat of War.

Lousiana Territory was theirs, but they couldnt hold it. We were advancing, and he didnt have enough resources to hold it. so he sold it to us instead of losing it in war.

I think. Maybe not, I dunno.

[TEX]

Napoleon sold it to us because he did not have enough money to keep his army paid in the middle of his attempt to take all of europe. If he wasn't at war, he never would have needed the money that fast, and that badley.

[Chu-Chu]

And he still failed!! At Waterloo!! WOOT WOOT FOR HOMETOWNS!!!

~Chu

[B8]

Now for the result of the failure - a democratic France, the eventual democratization of Great Britain and the rest is history. To a failure like that I say he failed very nicely into history. We need more failures like Napoleon.