Starcraft II!?!?! I really hope so

[ŞíŘ]

Agreed. In RTS gameplay, I hate micro-managing my units. I would prefer a giant panel of

Move + Auto-attack
Move + Self-defend
Move + Stand Down
Stop (Stand Down)
Self-defend

and other kinds of commands like that. Sometimes I want my units to guard stuff, and aggressively destroy anything they see. Sometimes I want them to hide and not attack until attacked. etc.

[The Black Dart]

Starcraft had an option of attack + move... and actually a lot of these things. You had to actually use some strategy to use some of them though. Sorry it didn't hold your hand throughout the whole way for this 1998 game : \

[ŞíŘ]

I'm not talking about Starcraft specifically (most RTS's actually have an Attack + Move) since I didn't really play SC much.

I'm just saying, I've seen games do this well (Metal Fatigue, most of the C&C games FTW) and I've seen it done poorly.

[The Black Dart]

sirwhilms said:

I'm not talking about Starcraft specifically (most RTS's actually have an Attack + Move) since I didn't really play SC much.

I'm just saying, I've seen games do this well (Metal Fatigue, most of the C&C games FTW) and I've seen it done poorly.

Ok sorry for the misunderstanding.

[ŞíŘ]

No prob, I can see how it might have come off to you...

[F1r3f0x]

Call me blind but I sure as hell never seen an attack move option short of using move+stop repeaditly.

I haven't played the expansion though, so mebee it has that.

Edit: this thread went from SC II to rts mechanics in a fast hurry.

Editx2: you also seem to like to rely on the fact that SC was in 1998 so it couldn't have some features, i'm guessing you haven't played total annihilation, made in 1997 (hohohoho!) which could do everything sir stated by clicking buttons on panel on the left.

PICTURE TIME LOL.

ben.bacchus.com.au/vpcblog/images/totala4.PNG

Top selection thingy : Hold fire - return fire - fire at will

Selection thingy under it : hold position - manuever - roam

lol rant I guess too, whatever relallyyy =P.

[The Black Dart]

in the very first starcraft level (including the demo) a marine tells you if you tell them to attack, and then click on the area you want them to move they will Attack move...

BTW you seem to rely on the fact u need to be held by the hand throughout your games. and yes. you are very blind AND deaf.

[F1r3f0x]

I was too busy building 3 supply depots and a refinery to actually touch the marines in the first level.

You have to move your marines down and left for them to say it, and there is shit about attacking anything in the objectives, so most people just sit there.

Also, the attack move command sucks balls, marines wait for the zerg to be stabbing them in the face to actually fire, much better just using stop.

I'm sorry I like to be told how play the friggin game right instead of blindly hitting buttons and clicking in places to figure out how to work one of the most basic commands.

[soyombo2001]

u realize ur criticizing a 10 year old game for not letting you do the things you want. In starcrat you could use both strategies mass or micro. Of course micro is harder but you know there has to be something to distinguish the skilled players from the average. Otherwise its just command and conquer (not that it implies c&c sucks, I love the series and enjoyed every game in the series).

BTW you use 'patrol' command for most of those things you are complaining about.

[The Black Dart]

It's easy to tell the true starcraft fans in this thread, and the lazy people (*cough* person *cough*).


Soyo's post = Firefox ownage.

[F1r3f0x]

I'm critizing a nine year old game cause its not letting me doing things that it should have. I can micro perfectly fine, buts it is a dick when I have a vastly superior force and have already played through the game twice and just want to go through again to fully grasp the story without resorting to mad cheats.

Micro isn't that hard really though, its just time consuming and I'm lazy so wahrahhgadkgsaldg.

I'll have to try patrol though, last time (and only time I really remember using it) I used it my mutalisks didn't stop and just kinda passed over and shot at the ground units once even when they had multiple opportunities.

Starcraft is a great game, it's just not an AWESOME game.

BTW, imo the best thing about starcraft is use map settings games =P.